Albert's new DAW

#1

So my old trusty computer has been delegated strictly to the wife’s business.

I’m considering a mac mini, because it would allow me to develop Iphone/IPAD apps, be another test bed for my own cross-platform apps. But it’s primary use would be as a DAW.

But it’s a MAC… :rofl:

So I’m scoping parts for a PC build as well, I wanted to be fairly silent and not a Jet engine. Which I think should be doable. I got a new Desktop at work with Quadcore Xeon’s and 12GB of memory and it screams ( I run Ubuntu 64-bit on the thing) and I can compile the complete Android distribution with kernel and our multimedia acceleration from scratch for our reference phones in 15 minutes. I have it right behind my monitor and the thing is pretty silent.

I’m I’m going for a PC, I’ll like to keep it a good 5 years at least, so I’m thinking a core i7 should satisfy for a long long time.

The primary purpose is again as a DAW, running Reaper and Superior Drummer 2 with synth plugins (do you know any really good orchestral Synths?) so I want boatloads of memory (at least 12GB) and using Windows 7 64-bit.
I don’t plan on any gaming, maybe photo editing, so just a decent video card (defintely one that could be passively cooled with a big heatsink instead of a jet taking off fan).
Looking at SSD for possibly the OS and the Superior Drummer samples (so the samples load fast).

Also I’m scrapping my old TASCAM audio interface and looking for a new one that uses USB2 as I now despise firewire (for the wrong reasons probably but still…)

So Grathan’s build gives me ideas for parts, but the case is still in question, I want a silent one if possible.

#2

http://www.nexustek.nl/NXS-silentcases.htm

http://www.quietpcusa.com/

http://www.endpcnoise.com/

#3

I think the fan in my computer died a year or 2 ago. It has been really quiet since, other than the hard drive at startup. A ssd would be perfect for a daw(for read speeds)

I don’t think the foam lined cases are any better, cause it’s not like they cover the fans up. If you get a good motherboard like i got you’ll have power options in the bios to explicitly set fan speeds(if you buy controllable fans). A good motherboard will also require less cooling to begin with. Mine uses 2x the amount of copper and has power phases which help keep things cool as well as stable.

If your worried about ambient computer noises, you might wanna look at building an isolation booth/box instead. Not only would it eliminate noise, but your mic capturing would improve dramatically.

#4

isnt USB 3 coming out about now?

#5

I have an external hd enclosure that uses usb3.0, that’s the only thing I’ve seen use it so far. But given that you can still hook onto usb2.0 or even 1.0 ports it should adopt more quickly.

#6

I thought USB 3 audio interfaces were coming soon too.

#7

Bert, did you say that you write android apps? I wonder if that is something I could do. Do you use Eclipse evironment?

#8

We do drivers for our OMAP System-on-chip processors that go in android/linux/symbian/windows mobile phones. We don’t really do apps here, but I’ve done so in the past for testing purposes for Windows Mobile.

I do use Elipse tough and other tools, but I still prefer Source Insight as my editor.

#9

Here’s what I’m looking at for components:

LITE-ON 24X DVD Writer Black SATA Model iHAS424-98 LightScribe Support $31.99

Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - $10.00 Instant $99.99

ASUS VW246H Glossy Black 24" 2ms(GTG) Widescreen LCD Monitor Built-in Speakers -$20.00 Instant $239.99

XFX Radeon HD 5450 (Cedar) HD-545X-YNH2 Video Card -$5.00 Instant $44.99

Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 $19.99

Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse - Black -$1.00 Instant $8.99

G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory $169.99

GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R ATX Intel Motherboard $209.99

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders $99.99

Antec P183 Black Computer Case + Antec CP-850 850W Continuous Power “compatible with Core i7” Power Supply -$60.68 Instant -
$40.00 Combo $219.30

Grand Total: $1,145.21 + $48.26 shipping

At Microcenter:
Core i7-930 Boxed $199 + $16.50 tax = $216.49
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0331303

Total = $1409.96

Will Dell I can get a similar system but with 12GB of memory:
PROCESSORS Intel® Core™ i7-920 processor(8MB L3 Cache, 2.66GHz)
OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English
MEMORY 12GB Tri-Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1066MHz - 6 DIMMs edit
HARD DRIVE 1TB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive edit
OPTICAL DRIVE Dual Drives: 16x DVD-ROM Drive + 16x DVD+/-RW w/ dbl layer write capable edit
MONITOR 24.0" Dell ST2410 Full HD Monitor with VGA cable edit
VIDEO CARD ATI Radeon HD 5450 1GB DDR3 edit
SOUND CARD Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio edit
Studio XPS 9000

Total with tax+shipping - work discounts = 1600.39

#10

You can save about $80 on your Windows disc here.

#11

[quote=“Dark Jer, post:10, topic:4793”]You can save about $80 on your Windows disc here.

:man_shrugging: They just sell keys??? :neutral_face:

#12

It’s amazing how fast all those things add up. :astonished: I can’t picture using more than 6gb of memory. The gigabyte is a sweet board with lots of customability and can always add more memory later on. Of course your gonna spend 2 days installing drivers and software, whereas the Dell is gonna work right out of the box. But for the extra 200 you can treat yourself to a sweet keyboard and mouse or another 6 gig of mem.

#13

Yup.

They have links to the downloadable iso files. Or you can use an existing one if you have one.

I have put W7 on both of my machines via these guys.

Awesome.

#14

[quote=“Dark Jer, post:13, topic:4793”]Yup.

They have links to the downloadable iso files. Or you can use an existing one if you have one.

I have put W7 on both of my machines via these guys.

Awesome.[/quote]
I would be concerned about embedded rootkits in those iso’s… It just seems completely shady…
You won’t even notice they are there.

#15

Somebody got my credit card last week and bought airline tickets from AZ, which is probably the worst thing that could happen from a hijacked computer? It doesn’t really bother me, they just sent me a new card.

#16

identity theft, distribution of spam, server of child pornography, DOS attacks…
and you won’t know it unless you regularly check your packet activity from your own machine.

#17

None of that shit really bugs me… When it starts hoggin my cpu that’s when we gonna start having some issues.

#18

I saw this and thought of you bert. I bet he’d take $900 shipped.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/vbclassified.php?do=ad&id=13415

#19

Can you elaborate on this? Is this something a nugget head such as myself can do without completely borking my PC?

#20

Here is a video from Wireshark aimed at a novice. Unless you were getting massively bogged down, something malicious would be very hard to spot.

http://media-2.cacetech.com/video/wireshark/introduction-to-wireshark/